Electric Drive Vehicle Deployment Act of 2010 introduced
Plug-in stations everywhere?
But could it minimize plug-in vehicles?
House and Senate leaders, aka the Electrification Coalition, are introducing an $11 billion package today to help create 5 – 8 “deployment communities” that can help jump-charge the electric vehicle industry in the US.
According to the DetroitNews, however, there are still many differences between the House and Senate versions that need to be worked out before the Act is finalized. Regardless, the final Act will essentially create a competition for resources; therefore, cities with the best plans – including their own tax incentives – will become the select few “deployment communities”.
Minimally, however, any successful city will have to ensure that at least a $2000 tax credit for at least 100,000 EVs will be available. Already, California, for instance, is offering $5000 tax credits for EVs bought in that state.
Just how cash-strapped cities and states can justify such costs isn’t the only issue concerning some critics.
The legislation “risks resulting in federal resources becoming overly concentrated in a small number of communities, which could establish electric cars as boutique vehicles,” said Gloria Bergquist, a spokeswoman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers.
But is there any other way?
Thanks for this detailed information. I got some points. The federal government proposed to provide a fixed subsidy for the infrastructure and charging stations it might be very helpful to increase sales of EV.
Yeah,i believe hybrid vehicles can make a lot of difference especially in fuel efficiency.This means money saving and also conserving resources.
Wow.. This is great! I read that this program is in addition to the $7,500 federal refundable income tax credit for the purchase of highway legal electric drive vehicles. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I definitely visit here more often.
In Hybrid cars, special warranties are provided for the battery pack, the electric motor other costly items. The future for hybrids looks bright with rapid developments in hybrid technology to improve engine efficiency.
Concept of electric car is good. But, some disadvantage have in EV. In EV,Limits on driving distance. If you drive long distances, an electric car might not suit your needs, so you will need to consider how far you plan on driving your car. Electric cars are expensive to own.
I’ve definitely seen studies that dispute some of your coal-power assertions, Robert. For instance, in old coal plants, even with the efficiencies of the EV, CO2 emissions – as well as other pollutants – can increase according to some very legitimate studies I’ve seen.
Likewise, there have been dozens of studies from Oxford, MIT, Argonne, JD Power – even GM – and many other diverse academic and professional resources on the economic cost-effectiveness and viability of plug-in vehicles and they absolutely do not make cost-effective sense, especially after tax credits expire, especially if compared to something like a Prius, and particularly based on the real world desires of consumers.
I think you’re focusing on too many perfect world scenarios. There is barely a study out there that suggests that EVs can achieve more than 10 percent penetration within the next decade. Most predict 1 – 3 percent penetration. And even by 2030, most still still see relatively sluggish adoption rates without several significant breakthroughs.
Ultimately, for anyone that researches this subject objectively, the facts indicate we’re on a path to oil dependence that will take several decades to overcome. Plug-ins are a big piece, but adoption will take significant time. We can do better using a combination of many different technologies and we should.
And that’s not even mentioning the fact that due to grid energy’s much lower price (from those same effeciences) than gasoline, the fuel costs to the driver are about 30% of a normal car. For example, the Chevy Volt supposedly will use 25 kWh/100 mi, or about 1 kWh/4 mi. So if you drive the entire 40mi electric range of the Volt, it takes about 10 kWh and the average american pays less than 12 cents for a kWh, which means those 40 miles would cost you $1.20. Whereas 40 miles in a 40 mpg car (average for new vehicles in 2009), assuming $2.50/gallon for gas (which is less than the current price where i live), would cost you $2.50, which is basically double. Now take into account that few cars get 40 mpg. The average mpg of a new car in 2009, which means the trip would cost you $3.13. At 22 mpg (average for cars on the road in 2007), it costs you $4.55. So makes economic sense for buyers and, along with the lower maintenance costs which comes from fewer moving parts, translates to lower real transportation costs in the US economy, which leaves more income for use on other things, helping the US economy. Plus, you’re not importing the fuel for the car, which helps the trade imbalance, which also helps the US economy. The same considerations apply with pure EVs, except that the maintenance costs fall further, because you take out more moving parts (the ICE in the Volt).
Dahcrdyns: you’re actually mistaken about the coal power issue. Due to the efficiencies involved in large-scale, centralized power production (as well as efficiencies in the vehicle) even if an EV is powered 100% with old coal technology, you still get a 30% cut in greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions versus an equivalent coventional (gas) car over a given number of miles traveled. Seeing as very few people get 100% coal power, the vast majority of people would experience larger reductions. For instance, I live in Texas and due to the large amount of wind power available here, the GHG emissions of an EV would be significantly lower, especially if you chose to purchase 100% wind power, which is pretty easy to do here if you’re willing to pay a little more, and have essentially carbon-free travel. This might be harder in, say, the Northeast, but in any case you would get significant reductions
well, it’s reasonable not to be in a hurry about all these. i’m not well in the topic, but how did they achieve it in France that EVs make such sense there? are people more interested there?
well EV’s haven’t actually taken off there yet either. however, France’s reliance on nuclear power makes EVs a very natural fit. China’s reliance on dirty coal technology, on the hand, cause EVs to become an even greater environmental danger than petro-vehicles.
Yeah,both side should be analyze carefully.What are the advantages and disadvantages?Are there more benefits people can have on these?
well, it’s reasonable not to be in a hurry about all these. i’m not well in the topic, but how did they achieve it in France that EVs make such sense there? are people more interested there?
Well, for argument’s sake, I might argue that EVs are about efficiency. Unfortunately, neither EVs nor the infrastructure to charge them is very efficient today.
Thus, as we build out, shouldn’t efficiency drive our move towards efficiency?
For instance, numerous studies have pointed out that small battery plug-in vehicles offer the most cost-effective bang and potential for consumers.
Why don’t tax credits embrace this more efficient application of battery technology? Why is most of our money being focused on the least efficient path forward?
Likewise, while I know its sacrilegious in the plug-in community to mention fuel cells and hydrogen, but the research on both the substantially reduced need for platinum in fuel cells as well as new catalysts for hydrogen production from water coming out of Japan in recent weeks have been very remarkable breakthroughs.
Thus, we don’t want to get too far ahead of ourselves, particularly on EVs in my opinion, especially considering our coal-powered electric infrastructure and the current predictions about the long term capabilities of today’s battery technologies.
In France, for instance, EVs already make great sense. In China, on the other hand, they make very little sense.
Just like the dot come bubble, rushing in before a real legitimate business case can be established often leads to big busts.
Rolling out as many hybrids and small battery plug-in hybrids isn’t just more consumer friendly, it’s also more government debt friendly. Likewise, if new gen batteries are achieved, hybrids and small battery plug-in hybrids can be upgraded into plug-in hybrids and greater range plug-in hybrids – which will have a much more significant effect on the legacy effects of all the gas guzzlers that will continue to be build as battery powered vehicles are slowly rolled out over the next few decades.
any innovation requires much effort to make it work effective.