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	<title>Comments on: Chevy Volt versus the Toyota Prius, again</title>
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		<title>By: dahcredyns</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcarblog.com/chevy-volt-versus-the-toyota-prius-again/comment-page-1/#comment-34403</link>
		<dc:creator>dahcredyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good points in those comments SirGareth, but a little extreme. I agree that the Volt is underwhelming right now. I also agree that the current plug-in tax credits were not well thought out and were largely written to protect and promote the Volt, rather than promoting competition that drives real improvements in overall fuel economy.

Still, ultimately, GM will have to improve upon the cost-effectiveness of the Volt and I think they will, or at least they will try. Likewise, I think that people that buy the Volt because they are committed to reducing their own personal independence shouldn&#039;t be considered either traitors or communists.

However, what would you suggest?

Would you be open to a tax credit for any vehicle that achieves 60 mpg, or instance? A gas tax?

Ultimately, don&#039;t we have to do something different in terms of energy policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points in those comments SirGareth, but a little extreme. I agree that the Volt is underwhelming right now. I also agree that the current plug-in tax credits were not well thought out and were largely written to protect and promote the Volt, rather than promoting competition that drives real improvements in overall fuel economy.</p>
<p>Still, ultimately, GM will have to improve upon the cost-effectiveness of the Volt and I think they will, or at least they will try. Likewise, I think that people that buy the Volt because they are committed to reducing their own personal independence shouldn&#8217;t be considered either traitors or communists.</p>
<p>However, what would you suggest?</p>
<p>Would you be open to a tax credit for any vehicle that achieves 60 mpg, or instance? A gas tax?</p>
<p>Ultimately, don&#8217;t we have to do something different in terms of energy policy?</p>
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		<title>By: SirGareth</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcarblog.com/chevy-volt-versus-the-toyota-prius-again/comment-page-1/#comment-34400</link>
		<dc:creator>SirGareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Lucas Honeymoon&#039;s largely unintelligible screed devoid of grammar and any sense of history, I offer these comments:

Japanese cars are more American than are GM or Chrysler cars which should be properly classified today as &quot;Soviet&quot; cars since they celebrate usurpation of freedom by government fiat (no pun intended).    

On the other hand Japanese cars celebrate US capitalism rather than Obama communism.    

I am patriotic only to the founder&#039;s idea of a free America,  not to our soil.  

If American soil can now only produce collectivist tyranny like GM and Chrysler then call me Japanese and proud of it.       

Tora Tora Tora on GM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Lucas Honeymoon&#8217;s largely unintelligible screed devoid of grammar and any sense of history, I offer these comments:</p>
<p>Japanese cars are more American than are GM or Chrysler cars which should be properly classified today as &#8220;Soviet&#8221; cars since they celebrate usurpation of freedom by government fiat (no pun intended).    </p>
<p>On the other hand Japanese cars celebrate US capitalism rather than Obama communism.    </p>
<p>I am patriotic only to the founder&#8217;s idea of a free America,  not to our soil.  </p>
<p>If American soil can now only produce collectivist tyranny like GM and Chrysler then call me Japanese and proud of it.       </p>
<p>Tora Tora Tora on GM</p>
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		<title>By: SirGareth</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcarblog.com/chevy-volt-versus-the-toyota-prius-again/comment-page-1/#comment-34399</link>
		<dc:creator>SirGareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you people are still enamored of government &quot;planning&quot; here is your car.    

Government Motor&#039;s &#039;Volt&#039; is the US answer to  old East Germany&#039;s &#039;Trabant&#039; or Yugoslavia&#039;s &#039;Yugo&#039;.  All three will soon vie in a contest for the world&#039;s worst car.  

In short the volt is pure crap but the car will be a &quot;success&quot; because Obama will order US taxpayers to pay for it one way or another anyway.    


This is how communism works and anyone who buys a car from this communist manufacturer would be tried for treason in a country that still had a lick of sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you people are still enamored of government &#8220;planning&#8221; here is your car.    </p>
<p>Government Motor&#8217;s &#8216;Volt&#8217; is the US answer to  old East Germany&#8217;s &#8216;Trabant&#8217; or Yugoslavia&#8217;s &#8216;Yugo&#8217;.  All three will soon vie in a contest for the world&#8217;s worst car.  </p>
<p>In short the volt is pure crap but the car will be a &#8220;success&#8221; because Obama will order US taxpayers to pay for it one way or another anyway.    </p>
<p>This is how communism works and anyone who buys a car from this communist manufacturer would be tried for treason in a country that still had a lick of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: dahcredyns</title>
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		<dc:creator>dahcredyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Lucas. And what country helped rebuild Japan the most? 

GM is selling the Volt for $41,000. The feds are picking up $7500 of the cost of the Volt.

Likewise, sudden acceleration has been reported in every make of vehicle.

I think you could use a few history lessons, minimally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Lucas. And what country helped rebuild Japan the most? </p>
<p>GM is selling the Volt for $41,000. The feds are picking up $7500 of the cost of the Volt.</p>
<p>Likewise, sudden acceleration has been reported in every make of vehicle.</p>
<p>I think you could use a few history lessons, minimally.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Honeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Honeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDK whats up with u dumb sob&#039;s but if u realize that whole picture please. Japan invaded usa soil in 1941. we released the nuke on them. Now obviously there slowly but shurly killing our buisnusses. Dont u see? Ur all falling for japanize junk cars cause there cheap. soon they will rule ur life. I would much rather pay for a volt than have japan controll me! By the way a prius is really ugly and looks like a damn turd. The chevy looks like a razor ready to cut up all toyotas. And i just got word that gm is selling the volt for 31000. So yea quit b2tchin about price! My family has had gm cars for 70 years. We loved every one of them. And my 2010 camaro will kick all yalls cars to the curb! My Truck too. Good by Toyota. Hello Volt! Oh yea chevys have never had a pedle stick! Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDK whats up with u dumb sob&#8217;s but if u realize that whole picture please. Japan invaded usa soil in 1941. we released the nuke on them. Now obviously there slowly but shurly killing our buisnusses. Dont u see? Ur all falling for japanize junk cars cause there cheap. soon they will rule ur life. I would much rather pay for a volt than have japan controll me! By the way a prius is really ugly and looks like a damn turd. The chevy looks like a razor ready to cut up all toyotas. And i just got word that gm is selling the volt for 31000. So yea quit b2tchin about price! My family has had gm cars for 70 years. We loved every one of them. And my 2010 camaro will kick all yalls cars to the curb! My Truck too. Good by Toyota. Hello Volt! Oh yea chevys have never had a pedle stick! Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryG</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcarblog.com/chevy-volt-versus-the-toyota-prius-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5124</link>
		<dc:creator>LarryG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Did GM aim for the sweet spot of Plug-ins?

Answers:  bahahahahaahhahahhaha

Question to GM:  &quot;What WERE you thinking&quot;?

the whole deal is inexplicable.... what exactly is GM doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Did GM aim for the sweet spot of Plug-ins?</p>
<p>Answers:  bahahahahaahhahahhaha</p>
<p>Question to GM:  &#8220;What WERE you thinking&#8221;?</p>
<p>the whole deal is inexplicable&#8230;. what exactly is GM doing?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup dahcredyns - I can see the following coming. 

&#039;as plug-in tax credits expire, prius sales will skyrocket and volt sales will lag far, far behind.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup dahcredyns &#8211; I can see the following coming. </p>
<p>&#8216;as plug-in tax credits expire, prius sales will skyrocket and volt sales will lag far, far behind.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: dahcredyns</title>
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		<dc:creator>dahcredyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>usb-

your point is interesting because when the Volt was still just a concept, GM did believe temporarily that they could keep the price closer to that of the prius. that&#039;s how poorly thought out was the concept when debuted. 

still, that isn&#039;t really surprising. bob lutz, the original driving force behind the Volt, conceived of the Volt as a marketing response to the success of the prius and the negative image of GM regarding technology, fuel efficiency, etc. even more interesting, until he left GM, he still claimed that the volt would never resonate with more than just the 5 percent of society willing to pay extra to be green as he called it.

lots of mistakes made here, most notably, not developing a legitimate prius fighter in the interim. if gas prices increase a dollar or so in the next couple of years, as plug-in tax credits expire, prius sales will skyrocket and volt sales will lag far, far behind.
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<p>your point is interesting because when the Volt was still just a concept, GM did believe temporarily that they could keep the price closer to that of the prius. that&#8217;s how poorly thought out was the concept when debuted. </p>
<p>still, that isn&#8217;t really surprising. bob lutz, the original driving force behind the Volt, conceived of the Volt as a marketing response to the success of the prius and the negative image of GM regarding technology, fuel efficiency, etc. even more interesting, until he left GM, he still claimed that the volt would never resonate with more than just the 5 percent of society willing to pay extra to be green as he called it.</p>
<p>lots of mistakes made here, most notably, not developing a legitimate prius fighter in the interim. if gas prices increase a dollar or so in the next couple of years, as plug-in tax credits expire, prius sales will skyrocket and volt sales will lag far, far behind.</p>
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		<title>By: dahcredyns</title>
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		<dc:creator>dahcredyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think automakers want these cars to be volume vehicles, do they doug? At least not yet, there is still way too much profit to squeeze out of the current lineup until either gas prices or regulations force consumers to change. Until then, it&#039;s just too easy to sell more profitable, at least in the short term, vehicles to consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think automakers want these cars to be volume vehicles, do they doug? At least not yet, there is still way too much profit to squeeze out of the current lineup until either gas prices or regulations force consumers to change. Until then, it&#8217;s just too easy to sell more profitable, at least in the short term, vehicles to consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Tepes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad Tepes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were at GM I would be embarrassed.  To be honest, I&#039;d like to pull the entire leadership of GM into a room and explain to them that at one time GM was part of an efficient arsenal of Democracy that cranked out war machines that defeated the Nazi&#039;s and Imperial Japan,...unfortunately gentlemen, you are not those men.  You are all fired.  The Prius is just a prime example of pushing existing technology to the limit.  Its comfortable, high quality, reliable, and efficient.  Something that the Volt can only aspire to.  
Volt uses an engine that charges the electric battery and that is what moves the Volt.  The Prius is a series-parallel hybrid that moves using electric, gas, or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were at GM I would be embarrassed.  To be honest, I&#8217;d like to pull the entire leadership of GM into a room and explain to them that at one time GM was part of an efficient arsenal of Democracy that cranked out war machines that defeated the Nazi&#8217;s and Imperial Japan,&#8230;unfortunately gentlemen, you are not those men.  You are all fired.  The Prius is just a prime example of pushing existing technology to the limit.  Its comfortable, high quality, reliable, and efficient.  Something that the Volt can only aspire to.<br />
Volt uses an engine that charges the electric battery and that is what moves the Volt.  The Prius is a series-parallel hybrid that moves using electric, gas, or both.</p>
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