Bang for buck: Forget EV range and today’s plug-in tax credits according to study
Think hybrids and small battery plug-in hybrids for now
Several years ago GM invited myself and several other bloggers — many critical of GM’s clean vehicle efforts — to be part of the Chevy Volt concept debut, and in the following months and years, the Volt’s evolution from concept to real world vehicle. The battery lab, the design center, the wind tunnel, etc. — thanks to GM I witnessed the Volt go through the paces.
And, for a while, I bought into the Volt. Hook, line and sinker. In fact, just hours after the Volt concept debut, it was Bob Lutz that sold me when he suggested that the Volt would only cost a few thousand more than a Toyota Prius.
But, as the Volt moved towards reality, numerous studies began to suggest that plug-ins were going to be much more expensive than originally assumed. And slowly, GM also started hinting that the Volt would also cost quite a bit more than a Prius.
As this realization began to unfold, I started to become a little critical of the Volt and the plug-in movement. The movement just started to feel counterproductive to my focus upon foreign oil independence.
Without question, both the Volt and plug-ins are worthy of development. But in no way is, or was, the Volt or other plug-ins an excuse not to become more serious about conventional hybrid cars, for instance.
Furthermore, every single auto sales forecast produced in the last several years demonstrates quite clearly that hybrids will outsell plug-ins for decades.
Yet, instead of taking on the Prius, numerous automakers tried to leapfrog the Prius — at least in terms of hype and marketing. Or even worse, they used the development of their plug-ins as an excuse not to take on the Prius.
So what? The Prius is just a bridge technology, right?
Well, what’s the point of plug-ins? Foreign oil independence? Reduced CO2 emissions? Cleaner air?
In order to truly affect these issues, many tens of millions of new hybrids and/or plug-ins need to be produced and sold, and that will only happen when these vehicles become cost-effective. And for years now study after study after study hasn’t just questioned the cost-effectiveness of plug-in vehicles, but the willingness of consumers to move towards them.
Even worse, studies, such as the latest by Carnegie Melon, but also many others, suggest that if one were serious about using batteries to address foreign oil dependence, CO2 emissions and other forms of vehicular pollution, then conventional, plug-less hybrid cars and small battery plug-in hybrids — with only about 12 miles of EV range — clearly offer the most reliable bang for the buck.
Yet, in many plug-in advocacy circles, such vehicles are mocked. Likewise, federal plug-in tax credits are biased against cost-effectiveness. Why? Would it really be so bad if small battery plug-in hybrids provided the most cost-effective and timely path to foreign oil independence and battery electrics?
Yes, if a few unexpected breakthroughs drive battery prices significantly lower and gas prices rise significantly higher, then pure EVs will eventually make cost-effective sense. But, it could easily be decades before such conditions become reality. And a lot can happen between now and then — just ask anyone involved with Solyndra, for example. Unfortunately, the world is full of uncertainty. Deal with it.
So, why not use federal plug-in tax credits to achieve the most bang for the buck as quickly as possible?
For instance, I’ve argued for a lithium tax credit. Thus, any lithium hybrid that is capable of driving in EV mode, even less than a mile, would qualify. Consequently, all automakers would be on a level playing field as Toyota still uses NiMH. Moreover, if a battery breakthrough was achieved, then all such hybrids could be converted into plug-in hybrids.
Considering the legacy effect — some 250 million vehicles on US roads — is one of the biggest barriers to foreign oil independence, then it becomes obvious we need to act NOW. At 13 million new vehicle sales per year, it takes decades to replace the current fleet.
And, in my opinion, only a fool would believe the US can remain safely dependent upon foreign oil, particularly OPEC oil, for a few more decades. Nevertheless, the only way that reality can be avoided is by acting NOW.
So why not focus on more cost-effective solutions that are also upgradeable?
Plug-ins will make mainstream sense, eventually. But there is a lot more cost-effective good that can be accomplished in the interim. The longer we wait to take serious action today, the further down the road we’re kicking the can.
Besides, if a greater interim focus on hybrids and small battery plug-in hybrids ends US foreign oil dependence, or at least OPEC dependence, faster and more cost-effectively than focusing only larger battery plug-ins, what’s the harm? Lost pork? Missed political kickbacks?
We can do better and we can do it now.


re: every little bit
not what I meant. I mean that EVERYONE is going to have to take a haircut – across the spectrum – from Medicare to ethanol to hybrid car credits.
everyone needs to take a hit.
we have convinced ourselves of all these “good” programs but we are not willing to pay for them and having the Chinese loan us money to pay for them is nutty.
anyone who cares about our security from things like foreign oil should also recognize just what a threat to our security a 14+ trillion dollar debt is… at some point.. the people who own our debt will be telling us what to do.
Larry,
Every little bit doesn’t help if you are only willing to do a litle,
With that strategy, you are still in debt AND a lot of vaulable programs that have positive impact are eliminated. That has been the strategy of our current politicians and it simply won’t work.
You reduce the over spending to $1.4999999999 trillion and increase our dependence on foreign oil today and in the future??? No thanks……
yeah.. but tax breaks when we are spending 1.5T more than we are taking in – is crazy.
we’re borrowing the money for those tax breaks from the Chinese….
we have to pay them all back at some point probably sooner than later..
every single tax cut puts us deeper in the hole.
I’m in favor of going back to Clinton/Reagan era taxes but tax credits and other cuts are killing us…
Larry,
I’ve stated my case previously, that until we restore tax rates to the Clinton era, I am not in support of eliminating any more tax cuts, just to offset tax cuts for the rich.
I prefer tax breaks for individuals that help the environment as opposed to tax breaks simply for being rich.
Especially since restoring the Clinton tax rates will yield $1.5 trillion, in annual revenues. It would take the elimination of the plug in tax credit and over 100,000 more tax credits of the same size to yield the revenue of restoring the Clinton tax rates.
The Bush Tax Cuts AND the DOD spending is why we have a deficit. We may have trouble fixing the DOD spending in the short term, but we CAN fix the tax rate problem…..
I’m pretty much opposed to credits of any kind until we get our ANNUAL 1.5 TRILLION deficit under control.
we are now spending MORE on DOD and Homeland Security than we are taking in – in income taxes.
when we give tax credits – we are borrowing the money from China to provide them.
So China is the one providing our tax credits and we owe them the money back -with interest,
I assume that once folks understand that we are borrowing money from China to pay for these credits that they’ll agree.. this is NOT GOOD!
Larry,
So you are picking and choosing which tax breaks we should keep?
Ask 20 people which tax breaks to keep and which to get rid of, and you’ll get 20 different answers.
My stand is pretty clear. I am for eliminating all tax credits, but if you don’t… Then you evaluate each tax credit based on its merits compared to it lost revenues and decide whether to keep it or not. “Bang for the Buck”
With plugins, $7500 sounds like a lot of money, but with less than 10,000 plugins being sold in 2011, the total annual cost is only $7.5 million. Compare that to “cash for clunkers”, which spent over $3 billion in a few months and you see that this is not a lot of money…
Compare the plug in tax credit to a small $1000 tax credit for hybrids, and say that automakers sold 250,000 hybrids in a year(which is very realistic) you would spend $250 million.
I think this may be one of the reasons, we do not have a hybrid tax credit. Because it would cost significantly more money to have a hybrid tax break significant enough that it would begin to reduce foreign oil dependency.
$7.5 million spent for all of 2011 may not do much for foreign oil dependency today, but it may help “jump start” the plug in industry, which may have long term implications on foreign oil dependency. That is “Bang for the Buck” in my opinion….
eliminate mortgage deductions.. YES!
eliminate child tax credits : probably …
we have a system now where it is considered a responsibility of all taxpayers to promote home ownership and having kids… two things that ought to be the responsibility of those who want them – not those who do not.
the reason why 47% do not pay any federal taxes are:
1. mortgage deductions
2. kids
3. tax free employer-provided health care.
There are two truths in regards to tax breaks.
1. Individuals typically support tax breaks that they may take advantage of themselves.
2. Individuals typically DO NOT support tax breaks they will not be able to take advantage of themsleves.
Most common answer for NOT supporting a tax break? “Why should I pay for someone else’s tax break”.
In reality a tax break for someone else costs you $0 in taxes. It simply means that the other person paid less taxes……
Gov’t have used taxes and tax breaks as incentives since taxes were first invented. For those that want to elminiate this behavior…..
Do you want to eliminate ALL TAX BREAKS including the ones that you qualify for, like Interest deductions for your home loan?
The real problem is the media hype and built up expectations that one, or all of the EV solutions, will solve all the “bad” things with ICE vehicles. EV/HEV vehicles all have their place for specific conditions. But, the use of tax credits and subsidies is unfair. Why should I, who only drives a car when absolutely necessary and rides my bike to work have to help subsidize your EV/HEV? Put a huge tax on gas. Period. Make it $9 a gallon like Europe. Then people have a choice…drive your gas hog SUV/luxury/sport vehicle and contribute daily to the tax base, drive less, or buy an EV/HEV or proper diesel vehicle…
Hybrid are future and there is no question about that. We in our dealership store have always questions about hybrids cars. Especially in this year
keep on…keeping us up to date on your Volt Smurf.
In my opinion, both hybrids and plug in hybrids are bridge solutions.
And these are long bridges like the Mackinac, or Lake Pontchartrain bridges, because it will be a long time before we fully replace oil. In the mean time we need to increase the efficiency of vehicles, and hybrids/plug in hybrids, will be how we do that.
FYI. I got called by my Chevy dealer today. My Volt allocation number came up. My Volt order has now been processed. I have an expected delivery date of late October, early November. I’ll keep you posted……
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