And I'd still buy a Toyota Prius
Time to chillax?OK. Recall. Recall. Recall. Tired of hearing those words yet?
I am, and I'm going to try to avoid them for the next few days. Besides, if I were going to write again on this issue, it would very much resemble MotorTrend's Wild, Out of Control Toyotas? Baloney. So, why rewrite what has already been said?
Thus, I'd just like to conclude my recall talk by saying that if I were in the market today, I'd buy a Toyota Prius without any hesitation, even a used third generation Prius without the braking software update.
And I'd still sleep soundly at night.
Labels: recalls, toyota prius
posted by Dahcredyns at
8:23 AM
10 Comments:
I totally agree!! Except, I would also consider the Ford Fusion :)
Absolutely. The Fusion hybrid is a great car that any hybrid car buyer should consider. If only Ford could squeeze all that fantastic hybrid technology into a smaller $20,000 - $22,000 hybrid package I'd be so happy!
I almost threw the Fusion hybrid into this post as well, particularly considering that it was also in the news for braking software, but instead decided just to keep the message simple and on point considering today's recall news.
Nonetheless, ultimately, I couldn't agree more about your Fusion hybrid sentiment. Easily my second favorite hybrid.
The brake issue is a joke.
My Honda Civic Hybrid has a similar issue when the braking transitions from regeneration to the hydraulic brakes. I can feel it in the brake pedal at the exact moment the transition occurs, just like the Prius and Fusion. That's simply how hybrid brake systems work...
The good news is that this issue may help to slow down the price hikes for the Prius that we've been seeing at Toyota dealerships....
you can feel it also if your car has ESC and you push it to the point where it activates.
Toyota messed up - not so much on their cars but in the way they handled the issue.
Whether it's political scandals or Tiger Woods snafus or Toyota brakes/software - you have to get out in front of the issue ... and the more you resist - the more it gets drawn out and the more the media and others get suspicious and think you are up to something.
so the good news is that Toyota probably will work even harder to make quality cars but the bad news is that as good as they are at building cars they have a ways to go in dealing with recalls.
and it's not like they didn't have some pretty good examples, "unsafe at any speed", Suzuki Sameri's, Ford Pinto and Explorer/Firestone tires... etc, etc
This nonsense has been completely overblown and overhyped.
Most of the issues people have with cars is from their own driving abilities or lack thereof. Let's start with the Lexus accident that killed the trained officer and his family.
I'm sure without a doubt that in a panicked state, it's extremely difficult to make a decision and quickly. But if you're supposed to be trained to make decisions AND you have enough time to have a passenger make a 911 call and report the problem, did it not occur to the driver/officer to put the car in NEUTRAL?
I don't know...a lot of this nonsense is not making sense anymore. People complaining about Corolla steering now, Prius acceleraion, etc...I smell bullshit.
I'm not so sure I'd go near a Toyota right now with the way they continue to have problems.. I think there are more they are hiding..
Plus check out my blog post about the efficiency of a hybrid vs a used car.
Scott
What exactly is it that you think they are lying about?
Perhaps the disappointment regarding Toyota comes not so much from the issues the cars are having but more so due to the fact that they are turning out to be the same type of company the Big 3 are/were.
I'm not here to defend Toyota's because I don't particularly like them. They have followed suit with the rest of the gas guzzling crappy automakers and believe they should somehow be redeemed for that due to the Prius. Not so for me. The Prius doesn't make up for the crapload of Tacomas and Tundras and whatever other overweight, wasteful barges they make. My wife's Rav4 has turned out to be a very inefficient car gas mileage and emissions-wise...a big big disappointment.
My issue with this whole thing is the hypocrisy shown by the "other" sides.
With most recalls, I find that it takes a combination poor manufacturing and a clueless operator in order to have a problem.
In most cases, general preventive maintenance or standard operation would have prevented the problem from happening.
Can someone answer this: is the prius hybrid recall problem going to affect Lexus RX 400h?
anon with lexus-
Not at this point I don't think. The old braking software isn't at issue.
It's the latest software that is at issue. Regen braking can provide a lot of extra energy and automakers are constantly trying to squeeze ever more juice out of this capability, which is what Toyota - and all hybrid makers - have been trying to do. That's why the software system was updated.
Of course, with witch hunt going on the media and some sectors of Congress, every Toyota vehicle is now under suspicion.
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