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Friday, November 07, 2008

Trinity claims automakers conspiring against plug-ins

The Trinity plug-in hybrid at NAIAS

Back in January, I called the AFS Trinity plug-in hybrid one of the "more interesting vehicles at NAIAS". Using off-the-shelve parts and ultracapacitors, the AFS Trinity promised up to 150 mpg. Of course, this technology had not yet been put through the battery of tests required of OEMs. Likewise, automakers have regularly investigated ultracaps, finding the costs too high.

Nonsense, according AFS. Because the LA Auto Show was going to put the Trinity in the basement - where such concepts are always placed - rather than on the main floor, AFS is pulling out of the show according to Autobloggreen.

"The suppression by the automakers of information about technologies such as this raises serious questions about the judgment, vision, intentions and capabilities of the leadership of these companies. Such conduct by the automakers ... is evidence they are reluctant to embrace solutions they didn't invent."

Labels: plug-in hybrid vehicles

posted by Dahcredyns at 10:53 AM

4 Comments:

Blogger Jabroni said...

Yep, we saw all the evidence we needed to see these past 10 years. All the proven EV's, all the high mileage hybrids that were built and then scrapped are proof enough.

I just wish we could let them go bankrupt, shrivel and die respectfully.

11:24 AM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

well, I don't disagree that automakers have stymied innovation, but I'm not sure that Trinity really proves that case with their technology. Inevitably, a lot of assumptions were made with Trinity and their technology.

Even if automakers payed attention to Trinity last year, there were still years of testing to be done. That would put Trinity's technology on about the same time horizon as plug-in prius and the Volt. Not much gain there.

11:47 AM  
Blogger Noz said...

Dahc,

I have to side with Jabroni...they really need to make way for companies like AFS...

They really do need to die and go away. It's the only way.

And I have no doubt whatsoever that they'll pull crap like this...the oil companies are in on it too IMO.

It's OK....if this plan goes to hell, they'll go along with it. They're just too stupid to realize it.

12:34 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

AFS isn't trying to become an automaker. It wanted to sell its proprietary idea for a PHEV to conventional automakers.

In my opinion, it wasn't an idea with a lot of up-sell.

At NAIAS, I interviewed a rep from AFS and he made it clear that the reality of such a vehicle was still probably two years out, if an automaker bought the technology. Automakers are already on that time scale, so where is the gain?

Also, if automakers go under, lots of suppliers go under. So that would hurt companies like Tesla or Aptera, or anyone else that dosn't manufacture 100 percent of their automotive parts.

Unfortunately, bankruptcy is much bigger than just the Big 3. In fact, the effect would be bigger outside of the Big 3.

12:48 PM  

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