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Thursday, October 30, 2008

Fusion hybrid 5mpg better than Camry hybrid

No competition for Ford's new hybrids?

InsideLine is reporting that the new Ford Fusion and Milan hybrid vehicles will achieve fuel economy that is at least 5 mpg better than the Toyota Camry hybrid on the EPA's city cycle. That would mean at least 38 mpg..

To achieve this level of fuel economy, Ford's new hybrids will have an electric range of up to 8 miles and be able to run on nothing but electricity up to speeds as high as 47 mph.

According to Ford, these impressive numbers were achieved by downsizing all hybrid components, as Toyota has claimed it will also do with the next generation Prius. That means a battery that is 20 percent lighter than the battery pack used in the Escape hybrid, for instance.

Sounds like a winner. It would be nice to see Ford live up to the hype. Of course, if Ford only produces 25,000 Fusion hybrids, I still won't be that impressed.

Labels: Ford, Ford fusion hybrid, Hybrid Vehicles, mercury milan hybrid, toyota camry hybrid

posted by Dahcredyns at 11:43 AM

13 Comments:

Blogger ZenDude said...

It's always good to see the technology moving forward! I will agree they need to make more though. In 5 years when we have gas shortages, we will need this technology!

1:04 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

Obviously, the Camry hybrid is based on the same HSD that debuted in 2004, so it's basically old hybrid technology. With Toyota reporting about the same kind of decreases in hybrid component weights and sizes for the third gen. HSD, one can assume the Camry hybrid with a third gen HSD would see significant improvements in efficiency. So, I don't think Ford is cruising past Toyota.

Ford is, however, putting pressure on Toyota to not rest on its success. And, Ford is proving, it seems, that it can compete with Toyota.

If Ford's hybrids live up to expectations and are priced close to the Camry hybrid, it seems Toyota will have decrease its prices in order to compete. That would be great for consumers.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would just like to point out that the Ford Fusion with the small engine and manual tranny will easily get 30 mpg stock. My son has one and I have driven it and can verify what he is telling me. In fact, it almost gets mileage as good as my subcompact Suzuki SX4.

2:14 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

Not on the EPA's city cycle.

There are a lot of vehicles that achieve fairly decent fuel economy when driving on the highway or light city traffic, but not on the EPA's city cycle.

Sit in the congestion of Los Angeles and Chicago and your son's Fusion is achieving far under 30 mpg while emitting some pretty nasty pollution. The new Fusion hybrid will sit in EV mode - burning NO gas and stopping all emissions.

And, when you consider that according to transportation studies, congestion is going to get far worse in America in the coming decades, the future is city congestion.

Sadly, the EPA's city cycle, which is only a measure of moderate city congestion, doesn't really tackle the future of this problem.

That's the importance of these technologies.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Commodity Trading Accounts said...

We needs more cars like that, working for the planet

2:54 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

A lot more of these vehicles, and that's the key. Is Ford committed to building a lot more of these hybrid vehicles? Say at least 75,000 Fusion hybrids per year? Even 100,000 if demand was there? Or, will Fusion hybrid production stagnate for years just as Escape hybrid production?

4:55 PM  
Blogger Jabroni said...

Wait a minute....where's the plug?

;)

5:38 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

coming soon i hope.

7:10 PM  
Blogger Alann648 said...

It is great to see cars like this being made. Things like this will help prevent global warming, and will help you save money. It will help in the future also seeing how we have hi gas prices.

6:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting there. Give me a hybrid that can run 20-25 miles at up to 50mph on battery power and my gasoline usage would drop by 75% or better - and I'm currently driving a 40 mpg Corolla.

7:03 AM  
Blogger Chad said...

yeah, but that corolla gets well under 30 mpg on the epa's city cycle. additionally, a corolla is a better comparison to the ford focus, not the fusion.

10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually having less vehicles on the road prevents global warming. The funny thing is that the drastic rise of gas prices and resultant demand destruction have actually resulted in drastic amount of vehicle traffic on the world globally. Obviously, this is but brief epoch on global fossil fuel consumption but it represents an opportunity for policy makers to dictate that the automakers must change for the better.

As a side note global warming will continue anyway so long as we continue to consume the vast quantities of bovine meat. The amount of gas these creature put out along with pig and foul production is unbeliable and is in no way trivia as well. But, I guess that's another issue...was Soylent Green too far off?

10:46 AM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

no doubt less cars is a good idea, and car sharing, for instance, should be an important business model for the future.

about meat eating. i've always thought al gore should become a vegetarian. and i don't mean that as a joke. the meat industry would be far easier to address than the auto industry, but that is a whole different topic.

besides, i need to drive my prius to mcdonalds

10:58 AM  

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