SoCal hybrid drivers save over $2,500 per year?
Dial a clue hybrid haters?OK, I don't have any statistics to support this claim, but I was just watching Jane Wells, of CNBC, discussing mass transit versus driving in the Los Angeles area. One interesting 'fact' she pointed out: the average SoCal commuter wastes $2500 per year just idling in traffic. Since hybrid vehicles can use only electric power during much of this idling, SoCal hybrid drivers are saving a nice chunk of change compared to non-hybrid drivers in this all-too-common SoCal driving condition.
Labels: fuel economy, Hybrid Vehicles
posted by Dahcredyns at
8:56 AM
9 Comments:
It's only when people measure their waste in real numbers that they realize how pathetic and wasteful of a a lifestyle they have.
The reason why Americans are the way they are is because they have no clue what it feels like to feel pain....probably the most sheltered, most oblivious group of people on this planet.
It's high time people felt pain and realized what their way of life really costs. Too many people around already suffered and given their lives up for Americans. I wonder if the average American family suffered the way others have done thanks to US foreign policy, would they, for one minute stand for it?
Sadly, I may have to say "MAYBE" given how little people want to give up even now for their own kids.
Thanks for the Friday cheer, noz!
You're right, most Americans just have no idea how much we waste. That waste can only be described as sadly pathetic.
Still, I think a number of Americans are feeling more pain than they've felt for some time and it is only going to get more painful. Hopefully, this pain results in a new way of looking at the world and our effect upon it.
I know that's naively optimistic, but my glass is still half full.
Oh, Americans feel pain. They feel it when their underarm protection doesn't work or the cable goes out. The most spoiled people on the face of the earth, and thinking all that oil was meant for them. What happens when the house of cards falls in and you find out there are others out there who want to live happily as well?
That's exactly why I applied for residency somewhere else...in this case Canada.
OK...so Canada isn't the end all be all of places but I figured it's easier to get into Canada than in Europe or Pan Asian countries. Vancouver is where I'm planning on moving to. Sure, it's very American in some ways....but in other ways they don't want to have anything to do with the clowns down south.
Either way, I don't want to be here when this country goes down...it's going to be utter chaos.
And they say these hybrids are about the environment... Sounds completely economical to me.
The math doesn't work. $2500/year per person is 12 gallons/week (2500$/y / 4$/g / 52w/y), presumably burned exclusively while idling. Who burns through 12 gallons per week sitting at stop lights?
Looked at another way, I have to fill my 10-gallon tank every two weeks. But even if my car got one-half the mileage it normally gets (15 mpg instead of the normal 30 mpg), I'd be filling it up once a week at a weekly cost of $40. This comes to a yearly cost of $2080, which pays for ALL my usage, not just the time I sit at stop lights.
Something's not right with this $2500 number.
EARL:
Most cars get well below 15 MPG in stop and go traffic. A dumb neighbor of mine has a HEMI pickup which he drives to work everyday...he's lucky to get 9MPG if that.
I don't know blowing through 12 gallons per week is so impossible. The average commute for most people is about 20 miles per way. Get 10-15 MPG and you already blow well over 1 gallon a day at the least.
>Get 10-15 MPG and you already blow well over 1 gallon a day at the least.
But that's (well over) 1 gallon a day for the entire commute, not just for idling. I find it difficult to believe that California commuters burn almost twice that (12 gallons per week) just sitting at stop lights, PLUS whatever it takes to actually move their cars through their commutes.
Even 1 gallon a day comes only to a yearly cost of $1460, and that's if they don't take weekends off.
If even as much as half of Californians' gasoline is burned just while idling, then the average commuter is spending $5000 on gasoline each year (twice the claimed $2500 for idling) if this $2500 figure is to be taken seriously. This comes to 3.4 gallons per day, including weekends -- 4.8 gallons per day if they take weekends off. Even accounting for non-commute driving, I just don't see how these numbers could be realistic.
Do you know anybody who burns more than three gallons a day? And if you do, is that person's commute even remotely typical?
EARL:
I think you read what I wrote incorrectly.
I said the average commute PER WAY is about 20 miles if not more for most Californians. 40 miles round trip at 10-15 MPG is about 2.7 - 4 MPG PER DAY just commuting.
Depending on how you seperate idling to actual driving is difficult...but people drive on average HERE IN Cali probably 50-60 miles a day overall...so how many gallons is that per day?
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