Stop the Madness: Hybrid Vehicles Not E85!!!!!!!
So, is ethanol worth the price?
Supporters of ethanol claim that all this investment in ethanol for automobiles will eventually lead to better ways of producing ethanol, such as cellulosic ethanol.
I say it will simply lead to more flex-fuel Hummers and little decrease in foreign oil dependency. I say E85 is a feel-good way of accomplishing nothing, something both Democrats and Republicans love - talk, talk, talk, but do nothing.
Without raising the fuel efficiency of America's automobiles - significantly - America's demand for energy will continue to grow exponentially and it will outpace any reduction in foreign oil dependency produced by ethanol.
More important, even GM is now realizing the that the future of automobiles is probably electric. If this is true, then E85 simply becomes a distraction, even a boondoggle to those ends, at least for American automakers and the American economy.
Today, hybrid cars can increase fuel efficiency by 20 to 30 percent, which is a good start. Add advanced gasoline engines or clean diesel engines and fuel efficiency could be doubled - that's with just TODAY's technology.
But the real advantage of hybrids will be lithium batteries, and the ability to utilize electric power. Within 5 years it is quite possible that you could buy a $30,000 hybrid vehicle that might never have to be filled with fuel if you drive less than 40 miles per day, all it would need is a small electric charge at night.
Within 10 years a small fuel cell stack could be added to these plug-in hybrids and the majority of drivers might never need any other fuel than just a little occasional electricity. More important, all of this could happen much quicker if more incentives were provided for hybrid technology and lithium-ion technology.
Why not give those ethanol subsidies to consumers to purchase these vehicles? Ultimately, a change in consumer behavior is the quickest path to foreign oil dependence and a cleaner environment.
Yet, ethanol is the favored buzzword, the favored recipient of tax incentives and government subsidies.
In the past Honda has already claimed it believes electric cars are integral to the future, and Toyota's hybrid efforts make them a player in electric cars as well. Even GM says the future is electric. Consequently, it is imperative that American automakers lead the way into this automotive revolution, rather than sticking to flex-fuel Hummers and Mustangs.
America's focus should be that in 10 years every American vehicle produced is either fuel-free or that fuel is simply a backup. The technology will be there within 10 years. The Japanese will be there. Will America?
Still, I'm all for ethanol, cellulosic ethanol, as a fuel to produce electricity, just not as an automobile fuel. Ultimately, transporting ethanol simply makes no sense in a liquid form, but in an electric form it makes great sense.
Consequently, E85 could become a distraction, even a boondoggle if it takes the clean energy and foreign oil dependency spotlight, and early talk from many Democrats seems headed in that direction.
The future is now. If we don't dare to dream, we just might wake up to a nightmare. New automotive technology, not alternative fuels, should be the priority for America, and the majority of our tax incentives and subsidies should be given to consumers to buy this new technology.
Labels: clean diesel, Democrats, E85, Ethanol, Flex-fuel, Foreign Oil Dependency, fuel efficiency, GM, Honda, Hybrid Vehicles, plug-in hybrids



5 Comments:
Ethanol is a renewable fuel that is being produced now and can be used now with existing infrastructure. We don't have to wait for an electric car or even a PHEV and the 15 years to recycle out all the combustion engines and exchange electric hookups for gas stations. The key is that it is miscible with gasoline - which means that it can be gradually introduced into the buying behavior of the population. Furthermore, unlike electricity which is being produced predominantly with the combustion of fossil fuels, ethanol can store its energy for temporal as well as geographic transport.
But the most exciting thing for me is that ethanol and hydrogen can be made from fermenting syngas made from gasifying waste biomass of all forms - agricultural, forestry, and urban. That means can use the bioconversion of ethanol as a panacea for waste and combustion problems that plague the earth. Added plus... it can cogenerate electricity without combustion. That, in a nutshell, is what my BioConversion Blog is all about.
I advocate phasing in PHEVs that can run on E85. The miles/gallon (of gasoline) would be about 500 miles with the bulk coming from the combustion of ethanol. For that to happen, we need to develop cellulosic ethanol production techniques while perfecting PHEV technology.
What is the fixation with E85? There isn't enough ethanol being produced to get E10 in significant quantities, much less E85. Please, please, please advocate for a roadmap that doesn't have "And Then A Key Technology That Doesn't Exist Right Now Is Developed Here" as one of the middle steps.
Mike
Scott -
I'm 100% for bioconversion but mainly as a source for producing electricity, not automobile fuel - although that electricity could power PHEVs.
I'm not against E85, I just believe fuel efficiency has to be the priority, and PHEVs are the best path to that end, especially for American auto companies. The technology to produce 100 mpg plug-in hybrid vehicles essentially exists today, and American automakers need to seize this opportunity immediately.
That just won't happen without real leadership from Congress, and I'm very worried Congress is going to be content with just E85 in the short term.
Hybrids are a joke. My VW gets better mileage and needs no expensive batteries to drag around. Think about the carbon foot print of the batteries! Get a Diesel VW and be happy. I also have a 96 Transport that runs great on E85.
You are definitely the joke.
The batteries can be completely recycled.
Also, when will a conversion to diesel end foreign oil dependency? Even biodiesel can't work, there isn't enough biomass.
And, do some research. Diesel doesn't come close to hybrid fuel economy in the city, which is probably why Mercedes and VW are planning a serious ramp up in hybrids, including diesel hybrids.
You do know hybrids are fuel independent, right?
Now go back and suck up some diesel fumes, so you're perfect little world makes sense again.
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