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Thursday, September 29, 2005

Hybrid hate versus gas-guzzling hate

Earlier this week I commented on a CNN article that called hybrid cars hype, more on this.

Why so many hybrid critics? Let's be real, hybrids account for around 1% of U.S. sales. Don't like 'em, don't buy 'em.

Perhaps you don't buy the foreign oil dependency and terrorism connection. Fine. Perhaps you don't buy the fossil fuel, pollution, and global warming connection. Fine.

Do you buy it when the President of the United States calls on all Americans to conserve gasoline in the wake of two hurricanes that have significantly affected gasoline supply?

If not, go ahead and bury your head back in the sand now.

If you do buy the argument that Katrina and Rita require all Americans to help the Nation by conserving, then what do you think about the fact that GM has decided to wager its future on its most gas-guzzling vehicles, despite the President, despite the gas shortage?

Are American corporations above Americans?

Why are critics focusing on hybrids, instead of gas-guzzling vehicles? Which vehicles have a real impact on America right now? Which vehicles provide the greatest amount of advertising dollars?

Is there a connection?

Labels: Foreign Oil Dependency, global warming, GM, Hybrid Vehicles

posted by Dahcredyns at 9:21 AM

2 Comments:

Blogger TheTruth said...

First of all, if you honestly believe that you are helping Americas "gas crisis" and stoping "pollution" by buying a Hybrid car, YOU ARE A MORON.
Fact 1 - A Hybrid car STILL uses GAS. Your not saving american soldiers in iraq, your not telling "Big Oil" to screw themselves, All your doing by buying a hybrid is adding to the gas crisis by showing that you don't care if you only get 15to20mpg more than a non-hybrid car, especally when you spend $10,000 or more to have that coveted "Hybrid Car".
Fact 2 - Hybrids get what 50mpg to 60mpg if that, wow, non hybrid cars such as Volkswagon diesels get 40mpg to 50mpg as well as honda civics and other toyata non-hybrids that get well over 30mpg, without having to use the much vaunted "electric engine" and with a cost that is thousands of dollars less than a hybrid.
(What a concept, if you by a car that gets 20mpg LESS than a hybrid, for say $5000 LESS than a Hybrid You now would not have to worry about gas seeing that $5000 in your pocket is worth at least 3 years in gas. "But if I buy a Hybrid for $5000 more I will save on gas!", Sure you will, If your a MORON. You will pay thousands of dollars more for car that saves a couple 10-20mpg,
SIMPLE MATH = Can a Hybrid save money?
Non-Hybrid car - I can buy a $5000 non-hybrid used car and put $2000 away for gas for 2 years, Now I have a car for $7000 with gas for 2 years.
Hybrid car - $20,000+ and add the gas for 2 years to that, only $1500 for gas for 2 years compared to $2000 for a non-Hybrid because hybrids get "such" better gas milage.
So in conclusion - Does the hybrid car "really" save you money? hum, $7,000 compared to $20,000 plus.
Fact 3 - How much pollution is put in the air from the production plants making these completly worthless Hybrid cars.
Conclusion - Some people think that by buying a hybrid car that they are helping save Americans, the communtiy, the planet, etc.
THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT.
Please see through the "HYBRID HYPE" and REALIZE that HYBRID CARS STILL USE GAS!!!
And if you are still using GAS you are not solving any "problems" related to the gas crisis, you are only further perpetuating the current gas crisis.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

thetruth-

Perhaps I am a moron. You would know because when one looks up "moron" in Webster's dictionary, your name and picture appears.

Give me a break.

You didn't provide one alternative, not one solution. That's brilliant. You must be a genius?

A hybrid car still uses gas? Wow! Unbelievable. Did you put that together yourself. What's your answer? water, air - probably gas because you're full of it!

Fact 1 - If the American fleet achieved the fuel economy of a Prius we could end foreign oil dependency based upon today's gasoline consumption.

Not a bad first step, considering the best of hybrid technology is yet to come.

Fact 2 - Hybrids are an emerging technology. The commodore 64 didn't cause the computer revolution of today, but it was a step. Lithium based hybrid technology offers significant improvements over today's hybrid technology. So, a hybrids 20-30 percent improvement in fuel efficiency will jump to 30-40 percent, maybe even 50 percent. But, yes, you are right. Even a 50 percen improvement in fuel economy will still use gas. Even a 200 mpg hybrid might still use a little gas - so why even try, right - based on your argument?


Further, in terms of cost - economies of scale will make hybrid technology cheaper.

Additionally, hybrid technology, as it moves toward lithium batteries, actually increases hybrids ability to run on self-generated electricity. This isn't coal generated electricity. It is regenerative breaking-created electricity - creating energy from wasted energy. What an unbelievably stupid idea, huh?

In terms of value, almost every major auto rag has determined that hybrids actually can be a long term value, but you're the expert, right?

Fact 3 - Hybrid production does incur a bit more pollution because its a new production line with new componenets with fewer suppliers - meaning greater distances and less efficiency in supply chains. This happens with every innovation, every new way of doing things.

So, what's your problem? Are you mad you can't still run around like a caveman?

After further review, I think you are the biggest Moron I've ever met on the Internet, and I've met many.

You can define all the problems in the world, yet not offer one solution. Awesome, don't buy a hybrid. Don't buy any vehicle that uses gas, or any fuel that has any ANY connection to gas - which is basically all fuels and forms of transportation directly or indirectly.

Instead, follow the moron to moron-land on flying carpets.

You have no vision, thetruth. If the species had been led by you out of Africa, we'd all still be in Africa. Now that's 'thetruth'.

6:07 PM  

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