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Monday, September 19, 2005

Hybrid Cars and Fuel Efficiency: The most important point

The Dodge Durango gets 8 mpg in the city, while the Toyota Prius hybrid car ONLY achieves 45 mpg? What the hell are we focusing on hybrid cars and EPA fuel efficiency estimates, when conventional vehicles are doing so horribly?Hybrid cars are leading an automotive revolution. Yet, critics are everywhere. Hybrids cost too much, they don't achieve EPA estimates, diesel and biodiesel are better, fuel cells are the future and on and on.

On Friday Consumers Reports sent out a press release regarding the inaccuracy and inefficiency of the EPA's fuel economy ratings. Of course, even Consumer Reports had to take a stab at hybrid cars, noting that the Honda Civic hybrid missed its EPA estimated city fuel economy - utilizing CR's testing methodology - by a whopping 46 percent.

Of course CR did have to admit that hybrids still fill the top 3 most fuel efficient vehicles slot - not bad considering only a handful of hybrids are available.

In city driving, according to CR, 9 out of 10 vehicles - not just hybrids - miss their EPA estimates by as much as 50 percent. 9 out of 10 of the worse offenders were NOT hybrids. The Jeep Liberty Diesel estimated at 22 mpg city, actually achieves only 11 mpg. Chrysler's top selling 300C estimated at 17 mpg, actually achieves 10 mpg. A couple of Dodges only achieve 8 mpg in the city.

That's right just 8 mpg, yet we're worried that the Civic hybrid only achieves 24 mpg? Of course on the highway, the Civic hybrid does much better, as do all vehicles.

Still, this is an important point, especially when it comes to hybrids. Hybrids are not all the same. The Honda Accord hybrid and the Civic hybrid are built upon the same hybrid technology, but not the same hybrid technology as the Toyota Prius hybrid. Toyota hybrids, such as the Prius or Highlander hybrid, can actually function on electric power only at low speeds. This means that in city driving, where congestion creates stop-and-go traffic, Toyota hybrids can use much less gasoline, as can the Ford Escape hybrid.

Honda hybrids do not benefit from this gain. The second generation Civic hybrid, due out in October; however, will offer this capability, but its electronic component will still not equal that of Toyota hybrids.

Thus, all hybrids are not created equal and viewing hybrids as one class is as inaccurate and misleading as utilizing EPA fuel economy data. While the Civic hybrid only achieves 26 mpg in the city according to CR, the Prius achieves 45 mpg. The Ford Focus, for a conventional comparison, only achieves 17 mpg.

At today's gas prices, driving 15,000 miles per year, the Civic hybrid would save you $1500.00 in gas versus the Focus, the Prius would save $4500.00 per year in gas savings versus the Focus. Of course, not everyone drives in these conditions all the time, but for those that live in large cities, the cost-benefit of hybrids like the Prius is pretty dramatic.

Additionally, if you HAVE to drive an SUV and you drive mostly in the city, driving a Highlander hybrid or Escape hybrid will probably save close to $700 - $1000 per year. For many hybrid drivers, gasoline savings in the real world ARE enough to cover the cost of hybrid components, plus you are helping to clean the environment - can you really put a cost on that?

Ultimately, hybrids are not all the same. Currently, the Prius is best in class - at least until the second generation Civic hybrid. Still, it isn't the fuel economy of hybrids that should be in focus, rather is should be the incredible fuel inefficiency of conventional vehicles.

Labels: Accord hybrid, Civic hybrid, clean diesel, electric cars, Escape hybrid, Ford, Ford Escape hybrid, fuel cells, fuel efficiency, Highlander hybrid, Honda, Hybrid Vehicles, prius, toyota

posted by Dahcredyns at 8:29 AM

7 Comments:

Blogger T said...

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2:09 PM  
Blogger T said...

I have to question this article. I have had a 2005 Ford Focus, ZX5 (five door) for almost a year now. I follow my mileage VERY closely.

I don't see how they got 17 mpg unless they're jamming really hard on the gas while going uphill. Sorry Consumer Reports, but I've never recorded less than 25 mpg in the ZX5. Mixed city and highway driving I usually average 27 or 28 mpg.

Two weeks ago I travelled 210 miles on the interestate. At a constant 65 mph, it got something like 32.02 mpg. I'm used to babying the throttle and getting higher than EPA numbers. That doesn't work for me in the Focus. Instead, I'm getting exactly the EPA advertised numbers.

I suppose if I lived in LA or DC and averaged 5 mph on my commute instead of 30 mph, then I'd do worse.

I paid $15,500 for the car, which includes tax, title, tags, and 6 year, 75K warranty. (purchase price was $13,500, it had 5 miles on the oddometer when I drove it off the lot).

If Americans would just stop driving like maniacs (high speeds, fast starts, etc.) and start driving cars again instead of SUV's and trucks, I'm sure they'll find that they can save money and save gas until hybrids are widely available from all manufacturers.

2:26 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

T-

I'm not going to argue with you. I know many Prius drivers that actually achieve 60 mpg, even though CR says 42 mpg. Real world numbers are dependant upon a lot of factors.

Nonetheless, I agree with you that if a majority of Americans drove smaller cars, instead of huge trucks, SUVs and other performance vehicles, America would be a lot better off.

Still, unfortunately, I don't see that happening, which underscores the importance of hybrid technology.

Can't wait for the Focus Hybrid!!!

3:21 PM  
Blogger T said...

I completely agree! I don't see Americans giving up their SUV's just yet, (although, CSUV's are getting more popular at least some of them get mid-20's on the highway.)

Hybrids are a wonderful technology and I certainly won't question anyone's motivation for buying one. After all, who wouldn't like to get 60 mpg?! As far as price, if you can afford it, and it meets your needs, then why not?

I suppose my point is a bit elementary, but I think it's important. If someone is in the market for a new vehicle and hybrid doesn't fit the bill, they can still choose to buy a wagon instead of a SUV, or a small car instead of large one, or opet for the V4 instead of a V6. How about purchasing a small trailer instead of an SUV for that once a year trip to purchase mulch or move furniture?

The point is, everyone can do something. I'm trying to start a car pool right now. After all, the car gets the best mileage when in it's parked in the garage!

7:19 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

Agreed once again. Good luck with the car pool!

9:32 AM  
Blogger JoshMc said...

You need to get your facts straight. You could drive a Liberty Diesel foot to the floor in 4wd all day and maybe get 11mpg. I know two guys that have never gotten less than 22mpg in the city and have gotten upwards of 31mpg on the highway from their Liberties. Don't believe me? Search the vehicle forums on edmunds or cars.com where drivers have gotten varied ranges of miles per gallon but I have never seen one with a quote of anywhere near 11mpg. Stop inflating the numbers to get your point across, there are plenty of points you can make without talking about stuff you don't know.

6:22 PM  
Blogger Dahcredyns said...

JoshMC-

Those are not my facts, Josh, those are the facts of Consumer Reports. I know how biased and unreliable Consumer Reports is, so, please feel free to tell them to get their facts straight.

I guess Consumer Reports just doesn't know what they are talking about???? Please, give me a break!

Until the Consumer Reports revision comes, however, I'll continue to use the numbers they publish.

Sorry you don't accept objective research that doesn't fit your beliefs.

10:03 AM  

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